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		<title>By: Carsten Pötter</title>
		<link>http://staynalive.com/articles/you-dont-own-your-data-on-social-networks/comment-page-1/#comment-14992</link>
		<dc:creator>Carsten Pötter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 09:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No one has adopted it yet. It&#039;s still work in progress. Though I think it&#039;s a step in the right direction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one has adopted it yet. It&#39;s still work in progress. Though I think it&#39;s a step in the right direction.</p>
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		<title>By: John E. Bredehoft (Empoprises)</title>
		<link>http://staynalive.com/articles/you-dont-own-your-data-on-social-networks/comment-page-1/#comment-14993</link>
		<dc:creator>John E. Bredehoft (Empoprises)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 06:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This has been an issue for years - I can&#039;t remember the year, but there was a big uproar when Yahoo! claimed ownership of photos uploaded to Yahoo! (this was pre-Flickr). &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s going to be a fight to convince any money-making corporation (or, in the cases of Twitter and FriendFeed, any potentially money-making corporation) to give up the rights to data ownership. Twitter, FriendFeed, et al don&#039;t want to be in the same position as the record companies. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Because record companies are running into technical issues maintaining ownership of artist recordings, &lt;a href=&quot;http://empoprise-mu.blogspot.com/2009/03/music-industry-takes-360-degree-turn.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;they are moving toward 360 deals&lt;/a&gt; in which they will own everything else about the artist. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If Twitter and FriendFeed don&#039;t own the data, and therefore cannot sell it or control it, then the monetization argument for the services would be greatly reduced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has been an issue for years &#8211; I can&#39;t remember the year, but there was a big uproar when Yahoo! claimed ownership of photos uploaded to Yahoo! (this was pre-Flickr). </p>
<p>It&#39;s going to be a fight to convince any money-making corporation (or, in the cases of Twitter and FriendFeed, any potentially money-making corporation) to give up the rights to data ownership. Twitter, FriendFeed, et al don&#39;t want to be in the same position as the record companies. </p>
<p>Because record companies are running into technical issues maintaining ownership of artist recordings, <a href="http://empoprise-mu.blogspot.com/2009/03/music-industry-takes-360-degree-turn.html" rel="nofollow">they are moving toward 360 deals</a> in which they will own everything else about the artist. </p>
<p>If Twitter and FriendFeed don&#39;t own the data, and therefore cannot sell it or control it, then the monetization argument for the services would be greatly reduced.</p>
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		<title>By: Carsten Pötter</title>
		<link>http://staynalive.com/articles/you-dont-own-your-data-on-social-networks/comment-page-1/#comment-11288</link>
		<dc:creator>Carsten Pötter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 05:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No one has adopted it yet. It&#039;s still work in progress. Though I think it&#039;s a step in the right direction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one has adopted it yet. It&#39;s still work in progress. Though I think it&#39;s a step in the right direction.</p>
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		<title>By: John E. Bredehoft (Empoprises)</title>
		<link>http://staynalive.com/articles/you-dont-own-your-data-on-social-networks/comment-page-1/#comment-11287</link>
		<dc:creator>John E. Bredehoft (Empoprises)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 02:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This has been an issue for years - I can&#039;t remember the year, but there was a big uproar when Yahoo! claimed ownership of photos uploaded to Yahoo! (this was pre-Flickr). &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s going to be a fight to convince any money-making corporation (or, in the cases of Twitter and FriendFeed, any potentially money-making corporation) to give up the rights to data ownership. Twitter, FriendFeed, et al don&#039;t want to be in the same position as the record companies. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Because record companies are running into technical issues maintaining ownership of artist recordings, &lt;a href=&quot;http://empoprise-mu.blogspot.com/2009/03/music-industry-takes-360-degree-turn.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;they are moving toward 360 deals&lt;/a&gt; in which they will own everything else about the artist. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If Twitter and FriendFeed don&#039;t own the data, and therefore cannot sell it or control it, then the monetization argument for the services would be greatly reduced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has been an issue for years &#8211; I can&#39;t remember the year, but there was a big uproar when Yahoo! claimed ownership of photos uploaded to Yahoo! (this was pre-Flickr). </p>
<p>It&#39;s going to be a fight to convince any money-making corporation (or, in the cases of Twitter and FriendFeed, any potentially money-making corporation) to give up the rights to data ownership. Twitter, FriendFeed, et al don&#39;t want to be in the same position as the record companies. </p>
<p>Because record companies are running into technical issues maintaining ownership of artist recordings, <a href="http://empoprise-mu.blogspot.com/2009/03/music-industry-takes-360-degree-turn.html" rel="nofollow">they are moving toward 360 deals</a> in which they will own everything else about the artist. </p>
<p>If Twitter and FriendFeed don&#39;t own the data, and therefore cannot sell it or control it, then the monetization argument for the services would be greatly reduced.</p>
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		<title>By: jessestay</title>
		<link>http://staynalive.com/articles/you-dont-own-your-data-on-social-networks/comment-page-1/#comment-11282</link>
		<dc:creator>jessestay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 22:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carsten, I like what they&#039;re doing, but who has adopted it yet?  In&lt;br&gt;addition, as a brand I still have no control over how that data is&lt;br&gt;organized, nor the community that interacts with that data.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carsten, I like what they&#39;re doing, but who has adopted it yet?  In<br />addition, as a brand I still have no control over how that data is<br />organized, nor the community that interacts with that data.</p>
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		<title>By: Carsten Pötter</title>
		<link>http://staynalive.com/articles/you-dont-own-your-data-on-social-networks/comment-page-1/#comment-11281</link>
		<dc:creator>Carsten Pötter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 22:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reg. ownership of data: The Dataportability group has set up a EULA and ToS Task Force. It is targeting that question and tries to create something like Creative Commons for social networks and its users. &lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://wiki.dataportability.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4490392&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://wiki.dataportability.org/pages/viewpage....&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reg. ownership of data: The Dataportability group has set up a EULA and ToS Task Force. It is targeting that question and tries to create something like Creative Commons for social networks and its users. <br /><a href="http://wiki.dataportability.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4490392" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://wiki.dataportability.org/pages/viewpage..." rel="nofollow">http://wiki.dataportability.org/pages/viewpage&#8230;</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: jessestay</title>
		<link>http://staynalive.com/articles/you-dont-own-your-data-on-social-networks/comment-page-1/#comment-11279</link>
		<dc:creator>jessestay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 22:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dirk, is it open source?  How open are the connections?  Can I follow&lt;br&gt;someone across Noserub instances via an open protocol like OMB?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dirk, is it open source?  How open are the connections?  Can I follow<br />someone across Noserub instances via an open protocol like OMB?</p>
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		<title>By: Dirk Olbertz</title>
		<link>http://staynalive.com/articles/you-dont-own-your-data-on-social-networks/comment-page-1/#comment-11278</link>
		<dc:creator>Dirk Olbertz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 22:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to point yourself to &lt;a href=&quot;http://noserub.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://noserub.com&lt;/a&gt; which is an open social network that was designed from the ground up to give the user full control over the data - including exporting its data and importing it to another NoseRub instance.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We recently also added support for identi.ca, so we are a full member of that community.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And NoseRub is available in source code and should run on any LAMP system. All just to tell you: &quot;You can own Your Own Data on Social Networks&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to point yourself to <a href="http://noserub.com" rel="nofollow">http://noserub.com</a> which is an open social network that was designed from the ground up to give the user full control over the data &#8211; including exporting its data and importing it to another NoseRub instance.</p>
<p>We recently also added support for identi.ca, so we are a full member of that community.</p>
<p>And NoseRub is available in source code and should run on any LAMP system. All just to tell you: &#8220;You can own Your Own Data on Social Networks&#8221;</p>
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