Comments on: Why I Hate the Twitter Syntax http://staynalive.com/articles/2008/05/03/why-i-hate-the-twitter-syntax/ Social Media, Technology, and Rants From the Life of Jesse Stay, the Social Applications Guru Fri, 04 Jul 2008 23:58:17 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Identi.ca Provides Users An “Open” Alternative to Twitter | Stay N' Alive http://staynalive.com/articles/2008/05/03/why-i-hate-the-twitter-syntax/#comment-2504 Identi.ca Provides Users An “Open” Alternative to Twitter | Stay N' Alive Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:17:46 +0000 http://staynalive.com/articles/2008/05/03/why-i-hate-the-twitter-syntax/#comment-2504 [...] up. They seem to remain open across the board - and this will make them successful. I have talked previously about how the mistake Twitter is making is that they are not open enough - they are not basing [...] […] up. They seem to remain open across the board - and this will make them successful. I have talked previously about how the mistake Twitter is making is that they are not open enough - they are not basing […]

]]> By: MP http://staynalive.com/articles/2008/05/03/why-i-hate-the-twitter-syntax/#comment-1498 MP Mon, 05 May 2008 16:00:46 +0000 http://staynalive.com/articles/2008/05/03/why-i-hate-the-twitter-syntax/#comment-1498 Lousy tag parser. That should read: 'd xmlabs you_message_here'. -mp Lousy tag parser. That should read: ‘d xmlabs you_message_here’.

-mp

]]> By: MP http://staynalive.com/articles/2008/05/03/why-i-hate-the-twitter-syntax/#comment-1497 MP Mon, 05 May 2008 15:58:38 +0000 http://staynalive.com/articles/2008/05/03/why-i-hate-the-twitter-syntax/#comment-1497 Speaking of Twitter, I made a Twitter enabled LED sign that faces east onto 400 South at the State Street intersection. You can only see it at night, but you can have a msg posted there by 'd xmlabs '. Have fun with it (and be good ;) -mp Speaking of Twitter, I made a Twitter enabled LED sign that faces east onto 400 South at the State Street intersection.

You can only see it at night, but you can have a msg posted there by ‘d xmlabs ‘.

Have fun with it (and be good ;)

-mp

]]> By: Jesse Stay http://staynalive.com/articles/2008/05/03/why-i-hate-the-twitter-syntax/#comment-1496 Jesse Stay Mon, 05 May 2008 15:08:59 +0000 http://staynalive.com/articles/2008/05/03/why-i-hate-the-twitter-syntax/#comment-1496 Thanks Clint - I was looking for a link to that. John was telling me about that the other night, and I think that's awesome! Thanks Clint - I was looking for a link to that. John was telling me about that the other night, and I think that’s awesome!

]]> By: Clint Savage http://staynalive.com/articles/2008/05/03/why-i-hate-the-twitter-syntax/#comment-1481 Clint Savage Mon, 05 May 2008 05:25:59 +0000 http://staynalive.com/articles/2008/05/03/why-i-hate-the-twitter-syntax/#comment-1481 If you want twitter syntax completion, and are using irssi, check out twitter-irssi. This project was created by Derek Carter (goozbach) and John M. Anderson (sontek). Here's the url: http://projects.friocorte.com/twitter-irssi/ Cheers, Clint If you want twitter syntax completion, and are using irssi, check out twitter-irssi. This project was created by Derek Carter (goozbach) and John M. Anderson (sontek).

Here’s the url: http://projects.friocorte.com/twitter-irssi/

Cheers,

Clint

]]> By: Jesse Stay http://staynalive.com/articles/2008/05/03/why-i-hate-the-twitter-syntax/#comment-1478 Jesse Stay Mon, 05 May 2008 03:56:31 +0000 http://staynalive.com/articles/2008/05/03/why-i-hate-the-twitter-syntax/#comment-1478 John, Twitter is also not an open platform. I don't have a problem with them choosing their own conventions - they need to build a standard off those conventions so we are not just relying on one company to deliver this communications platform. Twitter is not making money yet, so there is no saying they will be around forever - sticking to an open standard will comfort me that their platform will not die, and will continue, even if they do not survive. I still don't like the @ style messaging though. John, Twitter is also not an open platform. I don’t have a problem with them choosing their own conventions - they need to build a standard off those conventions so we are not just relying on one company to deliver this communications platform. Twitter is not making money yet, so there is no saying they will be around forever - sticking to an open standard will comfort me that their platform will not die, and will continue, even if they do not survive.

I still don’t like the @ style messaging though.

]]> By: sterling | bizlift http://staynalive.com/articles/2008/05/03/why-i-hate-the-twitter-syntax/#comment-1475 sterling | bizlift Mon, 05 May 2008 02:37:55 +0000 http://staynalive.com/articles/2008/05/03/why-i-hate-the-twitter-syntax/#comment-1475 Jesse, I know what you mean. Twitter does seem more limited in user features than IRC. But it's differences have made it very popular. I was an avid IRCer on undernet back in '94 - '95 and met a lot of great people in Utah that are still RL friends. Now in 2008 I'm finally getting back into social networking on the internet. I'm glad Twitter is not just another IRC platform. I like that it's archived so doesn't have to be realtime, that it has basic threading, and you choose who you listen to. I can't really see myself spending a lot of time on IRC again, but for some weird reason I don't mind using twitter. Jesse, I know what you mean. Twitter does seem more limited in user features than IRC. But it’s differences have made it very popular.

I was an avid IRCer on undernet back in ‘94 - ‘95 and met a lot of great people in Utah that are still RL friends. Now in 2008 I’m finally getting back into social networking on the internet.

I’m glad Twitter is not just another IRC platform. I like that it’s archived so doesn’t have to be realtime, that it has basic threading, and you choose who you listen to. I can’t really see myself spending a lot of time on IRC again, but for some weird reason I don’t mind using twitter.

]]> By: John http://staynalive.com/articles/2008/05/03/why-i-hate-the-twitter-syntax/#comment-1454 John Sun, 04 May 2008 11:42:36 +0000 http://staynalive.com/articles/2008/05/03/why-i-hate-the-twitter-syntax/#comment-1454 That's not really what you've said, though. You've said that Twitter should be based around existing conventions (not 'standards' - tab-complete usernames is client-specific, for example), and chosen an example which personally suits you. But why shouldn't a different type of service choose their own conventions? That's what happened with the '@user' convention, which coded support was added for only after people started using it themselves. Twitter is not IRC, 2.0 or otherwise, and its command syntax fits better than using an odd subset of IRC's would. That’s not really what you’ve said, though. You’ve said that Twitter should be based around existing conventions (not ’standards’ - tab-complete usernames is client-specific, for example), and chosen an example which personally suits you.

But why shouldn’t a different type of service choose their own conventions? That’s what happened with the ‘@user’ convention, which coded support was added for only after people started using it themselves.

Twitter is not IRC, 2.0 or otherwise, and its command syntax fits better than using an odd subset of IRC’s would.

]]> By: Jesse Stay http://staynalive.com/articles/2008/05/03/why-i-hate-the-twitter-syntax/#comment-1436 Jesse Stay Sat, 03 May 2008 22:53:02 +0000 http://staynalive.com/articles/2008/05/03/why-i-hate-the-twitter-syntax/#comment-1436 John, my main point was that Twitter, while an open API, is not based on open standards. I would like to see them implement an open standard, or use and improve on an existing standard. John, my main point was that Twitter, while an open API, is not based on open standards. I would like to see them implement an open standard, or use and improve on an existing standard.

]]> By: Jesse Stay http://staynalive.com/articles/2008/05/03/why-i-hate-the-twitter-syntax/#comment-1435 Jesse Stay Sat, 03 May 2008 22:51:31 +0000 http://staynalive.com/articles/2008/05/03/why-i-hate-the-twitter-syntax/#comment-1435 azurelunatic those are great points - it would be nice to be able to at least tab-complete those that you follow though. That would be more of Twhirl's responsibility though, but there is no standard of any sort governing that - would love to see Twitter implement an open standard based on their platform. azurelunatic those are great points - it would be nice to be able to at least tab-complete those that you follow though. That would be more of Twhirl’s responsibility though, but there is no standard of any sort governing that - would love to see Twitter implement an open standard based on their platform.

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